A common question I get is how in the world
are you supposed to put an epoxy coating on a large plywood hull
thats sitting upright? The fear is that the resin will all
run off, the cloth will slide off, and the result will be a mess.
I never thought to hard about it because Ive never done
it, then, while moving a 1958 plastic speedboat I have with a
tractor I punched a big hole in the bow, and fixing made me think
about it again because I did it while the boat was sitting on
its trailer.
The first idea I had was to use stainless staples
and staple the cloth tightly to the hull. Youd use a lot
of staples because you want to keep the cloth from sagging. Remember,
the cloth is just to protect the plywood from abrasion and marine
bugs, not for strength, so one layer is enough. Then, Id
mix small batches of a fairly hot mix and roll it
onto the cloth with a short roller. Thats more or less how
I fixed the speedboat although I used duct tape on the edges rather
than staples.
I think this would work but I suspect it wouldnt be very
neat and youd be faced with a terrible job of belt sanding
(at least the topsides) smooth.
This is how I always suggested guys do it because it seems to
me Ive read about people doing this way when covering an
old planked boat. Ive even seen two old beater boats that
people had used fence staples to attach chicken wire, then plastered
Ferro-cement to it. It worked. But, when I really thought about
the work involved I decided I wouldnt do it this way if
I was building a new boat.
The second idea I had and is how I decided is how Id do
it, is to coat the last layer of plywood with cloth and resin
BEFORE I nailed it to the boat. That way the plywood could be
laying flat, the cloth and resin would easily be put on it, and
when it dries you can hit it with a belt sander to smooth it and
not have to hold the belt sander up in the air.
Nail and glue it to the hull. Then, when the whole final layer
is on mix some fine sawdust and epoxy and fill the nail holes.
Soak some 4 or 6 fiberglass tape in epoxy and lay
it on the butts. Touching these patches up with a sander wouldnt
be to difficult.
This seems by far to be the easiest way.
(8/23/02) A letter I just got from Hewitt Schlereth
made me think about this stuff some more. Frankly, I like straight
conventional planking. Its less goofing around, looks best,
and if you live somewhere where semi decent planking wood is available,
is probably the cheapest system. But coatings make sense for maintanence,
and with the scarity of decent wood and the resulting high prices,
a composite type hull is often the way to go. Especially
with larger boats.
Coating hulls is nothing new. Polyester resins were used for years
and still are by some people because they are considerably cheaper.
Theres been many failures; many of you remember marinas
in the 70s and 80s with old trimarans sitting there with the fiberglass
falling off in sheets. Seeing that made it easy to dimiss polyesters,
but I learned, as the following letter points out, that the problem
wasnt the resins, rather, it was the application. A system
I heard about was to first paint the entire hull with a coat of
resin with a very weak hardener mix, and let it sit overnight
and get good and tacky. Then hang the cloth. The tacky resin holds
it, makes it easy to smooth it, and keeps it from bubbling. I
would still use mechanical fasteners such as ss staples. They
cant hurt anything.
Would I use polyester resin today? I dont know. Frankly,
I just might because it is considerably cheaper and when done
carefully, does work. And, if it starts failing, you can rip it
off and redo it with epoxy! But that shouldnt ever be necessary....
Anyway, heres Hewetts letter....
The first job I had after I graduated was working with
a gang of five other guys and the owner of a New York 40 (you
know, 40 on the water, 60 overall) to fiberglass the old wind
machine. This was in 1958. Nobody knew nothing. But the guy loved
his 40....
So, we sailed into it. This was plain polyester resin (dont
know if epoxy had even been invented). We used medium weight rovingagain,
I dont know if fiberglass matte had even been developed.
In any case, wed never heard of it. As mixing guide for
the goop we had a sheet of paper with resin/hardener ratios for
various temp/humidity, a thermometer and a humidity gauge.
The hull was wooded, the seams reefed out and filled with a mix
of sawdust and catalyzed resin. We got the first layer of glass
on by painting the hull with catalyzed resin, waiting till it
was tacky and then pressing the roving onto it. We worked length
by length from rail to keel and... It stuck!
The second layer of roving did not want to stick to the firstthats
what matte is for, but what did we know. So, when the resin was
tacky, we hung the roving as before and four of us smoothed and
held it in place while the two others stapled and nailed (copper
tacks). And it worked! Last I saw the boat circa 1975, she was
hauled in Stamford CT and I asked the owner if the glass was still
sticking. He said that it had except in one or two places, which
they had simply redone. The rudder, though, they had given up
on. I guess it either flexed too much in use or swelled and contracted
too much in
the hauling-launching cycle, or all of the above. To make a long
story short (too late, I know, I know) a boatman in Matapoisett
MA, Alan Vaitses, wrote a book back when International Marine
was IM and not a subsid., about making old hulls serviceable by
fiberglassing them. He stresses that the glass needs to be mechanically
fastened to the wood.
I was reminded of this early adventure with fiberglass when I
read your method of rescuing Aquavit, which was pretty darn slick."
Best regards, Hewitt
Then, Ken Wells whoe's building a JENNY design of plywood posted this message on the building bulleton board. He told me about it, and I copied and pasted it here. It's pretty good.
"Im in the final stages of building
a wood / epoxy Jenny ( basically a Juna with a transom and a longer
house ). Been following this thread for a while, and thought that
since Ive actually sheathed a hull, Id jump in and
tell you how I did it. It came out quite nicely, no sags, bubbles,
or wrinkles. I did most of it by myself.
I used 5 wide 6 oz. cloth, with extra layers ( 2 to 6 )
in high wear areas. Put it on in 5 strips cut long enough
to run from the keel and up around the chine 6 or so plus
a few inches all around for trimming. Same for the topsides starting
a couple of inches up on the deck and down around the chine onto
the bottom, giving a double layer at the chine.
Start by marking the hull where the glass goes. Then outline the
area with masking tape. Unroll your cloth on a table large enough
to support the entire piece and cut to size. I use a razor blade.
You get less puckering and distortion that way. Roll the piece
onto a cardboard tube long enough to support its entire
length.
Next stick short pieces of masking tape ( 2 or 3 in.) to the hull
every 8 or so around the entire perimeter of the area your
working on. Just stick the ends, so you can easily grab them with
one hand. You use them to stick the edges of the cloth to the
hull.
Mix some resin and roll a light coat on the hull. Let it cure
until it is no longer sticky. The plywood soaks up quite a bit
of resin. This prime coat makes wetting out the cloth much easier.
Now roll another light coat on and immediately while its
still wet hold the roll of cloth against the hull and stick the
edge to the hull with the short pieces of masking tape. Then unroll
the cloth across the hull smoothing it into place and tapeing
the top and bottom edges as you go. The surface tension of the
wet resin will hold the cloth to the hull and it can be slipped
and slid around a bit to remove bubbles and wrinkles. When you
have it in place, go over the entire area with a bubble chaser
( grooved alu. or plastic roller ) to press the cloth firmly against
the hull.
Then roll another LIGHT coat of resin on. Use just enough to wet
out the cloth. If you use to much the cloth will float and fall
on your head. Remember, at this stage all youre trying to
do is glue the cloth to the hull. You can fill the weave later.
Go over it again with the bubble chaser.
Let it cure to the green stage. Then cut along the edge of the
masking tape you outlined the area with and pull off the extra
cloth with the tape. Use a new razor blade. This leaves a nice
clean edge.
Now, while that piece cures, go around to the other side and do
it all again.
It turned out to be not as hard to do as the books would make
you believe."
Ken.
Well, these different ideas certainlly give us options to think about. How would I do it? I still think I'd coat the individual hull sheets before attaching them to the hull. It seems like the less hassle although you won't have cloth covering the fastening holes, just resin. You decide for yourself how to go!
Another point worth mentioning here is that theres no reason to go to the expense or health risks of using epoxy for gluing plywood layers together. Remember, the plywood itself isnt made with epoxy. And, when you glue one layer to the next youre also nailing it to the next. Regular Weldwood or some other water mix glue works perfectly well, as does the jugs of stuff. I like the powder ones you mix with water because theyre very easy to use. And now, I think weve yakked about this stuff enough!